Francis, Leo and I have fairly regular chats, and we thought it was possible they might be of some vague interest to others, too, so we decided to record one and see how it went.
I understand from a comment on this page that it's your birthday....wishing you a very happy day and a wonderful year ahead!
Really enjoyed listening to this, the second podcast. Thanks to you, to Leo and to Francis for making these valuable conversations available to us.
I appreciate the pauses taken between speakers; this is such a welcome change from the constant barrage of verbosity I sometimes hear on other podcasts. The pauses allow me to reflect on what's been said and to sometimes have that "aha" moment when one of you has just put into words the ideas and thoughts that have been floating around nebulously in my head without form or language. The pauses also show how real and unstage-managed this conversation is - another welcome change from the norm.
The 90 minutes passed very quickly for me. I didn't consider it too long at all, it allowed a good amount of back-and-forth, while you were considering what had just been said.
"Rather than us opting out of society, we need society to opt out of madness" - love this quotation from Francis! What a wonderful world it would be were that so; I hold the vision for that world.
I completely agree with you, Miri, that there should be no line in the sand regarding free speech. None at all. In order to have a well-functioning society, we need to be able to respectfully disagree and allow conversations and debate in a constructive manner on all subjects.
All things hidden, unspoken, and unacknowledged remain "in the dark" which in my opinion is very unhealthy - at both the personal and societal level. I read (many years ago) an article about the first wave of European explorers to come across the Polynesian people. The article stated that the indigenous people carried out their coupling in full view of the rest of their tribe, as was their tradition. It was seen as normal and no great attention was paid to it. Interestingly, the article said that there had never been a case of sexual deviance or rape among these people...
I find it sad - and somewhat ironical - to see the divisions being created within the truth movement on free speech. I consider attacking or trying to smother another's opinion as narcissistic behaviour - another form of madness which society is being encouraged to accept.
Thank you, Catherine, an excellent comment. I'm very pleased you enjoyed the chat, and I agree with all you say about the importance of not suppressing free speech, and that an unwillingness to appropriately tolerate different views is indeed a form of narcissism, which as you say has become a modern epidemic.
And yes, yesterday was my birthday! Thank you for the kind words :)
I REALLY enjoyed this conversation and found it very thought provoking and fun to listen to. I like how open all three of you are about your experiences and perspectives.
I realised that, unlike Francis and Miri, I can easily name 100-150 people I know. I am almost certain I couldn't name 100-150 celebrities (unless I had a long time and people such as you three count) and I could CERTAINLY name people I know far more quickly. This made me realise I have an eccentric way of socialising and reflect on how differently other people are experiencing the world.
I have made a lot of effort with a lot of friendships over the years. I have noticed that, recently, people seem to be unexpectedly grateful for this. I was thinking it might be because I am getting older (I am 50) but I am starting to wonder if it's not that. I also don't think what they really appreciate is me (because I don't think seeing me 1-2-1 is what they are after). I think what it is is that I genuinely care about people and want to connect with them authentically. I think media has pushed a lot of people into a tiny corner socially and they realise they need connection with others. The other day I invited a group to see a play. None of them are what you'd call "awake" (which I am defining as "aware there's a global, co-ordinated agenda which is more concerned with the enslavement and exploitation of most of humanity than their welfare). The play was written by a former colleague who's 25 and it was about the issues with therapy. It was great. Our group was diverse. We had all been exposed to different propaganda (this was clear when Elon Musk's "Nazi Salute" was discussed), but we could discuss the play and connect with each other on a human level rather than just parrot propaganda-provided platitudes. I would not have selected this group of people to see the play, I just asked everyone I knew who I thought might come because I wanted to see it and support it and that was who came. Afterwards, they all messaged me to say what a good time they'd had. I feel we are at ground zero of socialising. People have had this period where cancelling socially was fine. Where staying in was noble. And I think they are over it. And, when they venture out, I think it will be things where they get together with people outside of their echo chambers and connect on a human level. And that, IMO, will be one of the many, many ways in which we will build the new society of which we are all dreaming.
(If anyone wants to host more, this is an AWESOME book about bring people together - I just loved it - I learnt so much and, because I read it in 2020, it was a great time to reflect on it!)
Thank you, Rosie, and I agree with all you say. It's important to try and connect with a wide range of people and people do indeed massively value it. More than ever now that things like working from home are more common. Thanks for the book recommendation.
Oh it’s your birthday? Snap!! It’s interesting when you spot these characters being groomed for celebrity….before he had a band, a very young very preppy Frank Zappa was put in front of a mainstream US tv audience on the flimsy pretext of demonstrating how to play a bicycle as a musical instrument. The whole thing was embarrassingly paper thin. Similarly, a teenage Bowie (as David Jones) was introduced to a UK audience as the spokesman of the “boys with long hair society” or words to that effect :)
In the clip you hear him mention a film he made the soundtrack for, a B-movie titled 'The World's Greatest Sinner'...
Matt Sergio looked into this a few years back in a video presentation with guest, documentary-maker Andrew Arnett
These are Matt’s words…
it links into 'Paul is Dead' - via Stanley Kubrick and an actor by the name of Timothy Carrey - the star of the aforementioned film that Zappa (pre-fame Zappa) made the soundtrack for - in 1962. In the film, Carrey makes a deal with a serpent and becomes the leader of a successful Pop group, and he changes his appearance in keeping with this.... He lets his hair down and growns a weird-looking goatee beard... A bit like what Frank would do a few years later. Predictive Programming? Agenda setting? So, this film was made at the same time that the straight-laced looking Frank was playing the bicycle only then, some four years later, to morph into resembling the Pop-star as featured in The World's Greatest Sinner.
There’s a link to the YouTube presentation below ... Go to about 1hr 50 mins to get to the part regarding Zappa and Carrey It'll last until about 2hrs.03.
You’re welcome :) If you haven’t watched it all, it’s well worth doing. A great piece of work by Matt Sergio. It’s fascinating when you start to view 1960’s iconography through the filter of Ancient Egyptian symbology…..and start to see the underlying connections with Blavatsky, Crowley, Kubrick’s work etc
A couple of additional observations…
The Beetle car in the Shining may have different levels of significance. Apart from a possible nod to the band, Stephen King featured a red Beetle in the book. By using a yellow car which drives past the wreck of a red one, Kubrick was likely signalling to King that this was his project now and he was free to change the story as he saw fit.
The Abby Road cover didn’t lose the Everest element…..it’s right there in the perspective
Also there’s a fascinating documentary called A Clockwork Shining: Kubrick’s Odessy 3 that is available on Amazon Prime (link below) featuring Jay Weidner and Mark Devlin. I originally sent the Zappa link to Mark and it was he that responded with the info from Matt S……happy viewing :)
I'm afraid my hearing (even with new hearing aids) and the sound quality makes it very difficult for me to listen. Is there any chance these chats will be transcribed?
If it is truly your birthday, I hope you are having a happy one, Miri!
I enjoyed the second chat. I wondered if your chats have to be slightly «self-censored» now or if you feel you have to explain the reasoning for the audience which you didn’t have to do when it was just the three of you on the call.
Not nearly enough attention paid by you three 'conspiracist types' to the horrors of
Global Warming/Climate Change.!! Very much as the article describes; I too found myself
getting angry, last summer, during the three days of sunshine we had in August. Firstly, I think
because the world is absolutely burning up, and it's so obviously our fault. That would make anyone bitterly angry. Then on the second 'hot' day I broke sweat in the garden [well it was
16 degrees in the centigrade].
I comletely lost the plot and started raging at my partner.Then argued with two of my
neighbours, jumped in the car, and sped round to the workplace, and smashed up the
office and threatened my boss; then realised: they were all women. It's perfectly true -
a bit of rather warm weather simply exacerbates Toxic Masculinity. Doesn't take
much to tip the scales. Before I knew it; I'd turned into a misogynistic, sexist, right wing,
bigoted, racist scumbag... Too long in the Greenhouse, perhaps.?? Oh the heat.
So now in view of my climate initiated behaviour, last year, I've gone to therapy [obvs].
And the ex University lecturer come councelor has quite rightly suggested that I take a load
gender dysphoria drugs and a course of hormones, some betablockers, a lot of statins,
Benzodiazepines, and five covid-19 boosters. I have an initial appointment with the Surgeon
next week, to discuss the first part of surgical proceedures for trans women and
non binary people.
Well with that, and the cases of Kool-aid I'm now drinking, coupled with regularly taking
the Knee at my Antifa meetings, plus the fantastic deal I got on boxes of rainbow face masks
Really enjoyed your chat even if I'm not quite on the same page with everything.
I wouldn't use the argument "can't say that because it will make you seem crazy" but I will say "that argument IS crazy" (with my reasons) and also that "that's a psyop", eg, those prominent saying the moon landings are a hoax are clearly agents whose purpose is to make those inclined to disbelieve the authorities (correctly most of the time, of course) disbelieve a very rare implausible real event. https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/moon-landings-hoax-psyop
I'm very happy to disagree with people and for them to disagree with me in a civil manner, however, I do tend to expect rigour and responses to challenges ... and that's what drives me crazy - that you challenge someone and they simply don't come back to you.
To give an example of what I consider a completely crazy argument: Stephen Hawking was replaced, the justifications being that no one with ALS has lived anywhere near as long as he did and his photos don't add up. Miles Mathis did a paper on it: https://mileswmathis.com/hawk3.pdf
Recently, I had a very long email chat with someone over this and we were perfectly civil to each other (it's really not that hard to maintain civility if you value it) but I told the guy I think his argument is crazy. However, while I think he's crazy on Hawking I very much admire work he's done on 9/11 ... in fact, I also debated Hawking with another guy (who was quite derisive in tone - but water off a duck's back for me) whose work on 9/11 I very much admire but who didn't get back to me when I responded to his "case" on Hawking.
If I stopped paying attention to people I disagreed with on individual items there's no one I'd be paying any attention to but disagreement on individual items doesn't make me think they're a shill because I can see what good work they do otherwise.
Re the transgender thing. Francis mentioned the Bond movie person (Caroline Cossey) who really looked like a woman but was born male. The thing is Cossey is not so much transgender as a kind of intersex, born with the condition Klinefelter's syndrome, which means she had XXY chromosomes instead of the normal XY. Sure the glorification of transgenderism is criminal but I think it's important to recognise that transgender and intersex are both phenomena which have always been around. What floors me is non-binary. Prior to the current era I never looked at anyone and thought they looked non-binary (regardless of the fact that no one identified that way as far as I know) whereas now I see people who identify as non-binary and think, "Yep, they look non-binary, they don't look particularly male or female." It is a very strange sensation.
The Martyn Hett tattoo story is amazing. They pulled the full interview from the internet because it was too much even for the normies - however it lives on in shortened form. From 54sec https://www.bitchute.com/video/UPZLLGzEAeXB
One of my very favourite comments on fakery is on this pair:
"Holy Shit. I am really shocked. The mother actually says her boy would be happy to be dead to get all this media attention. OK, I know grief can be strange, but – really? saying your kid would be happy to be dead and famous is beyond anything I can easily accept as normal. At best it’s sociopathic. At worst…I don’t know! I just do not know what to think.
These two seem utterly unmoved, smiling, calm. Not bravely smiling through the pain. Just regular smiling and unmoved. WTF is that?
And why is she sitting there with an arm full of the dolls she makes like some sort of freakish product placement? And as I said what are the odds this “son of the year” who was all over the media a couple of years ago for what seems like quite odd reasons of itself, is now in the media again for being a victim of terror?
I am genuinely shaken and genuinely confused. I have never bothered to look at any of this alleged fakery before. I have to have a long think about this and ask some trusted friends to view the video.
I understand from a comment on this page that it's your birthday....wishing you a very happy day and a wonderful year ahead!
Really enjoyed listening to this, the second podcast. Thanks to you, to Leo and to Francis for making these valuable conversations available to us.
I appreciate the pauses taken between speakers; this is such a welcome change from the constant barrage of verbosity I sometimes hear on other podcasts. The pauses allow me to reflect on what's been said and to sometimes have that "aha" moment when one of you has just put into words the ideas and thoughts that have been floating around nebulously in my head without form or language. The pauses also show how real and unstage-managed this conversation is - another welcome change from the norm.
The 90 minutes passed very quickly for me. I didn't consider it too long at all, it allowed a good amount of back-and-forth, while you were considering what had just been said.
"Rather than us opting out of society, we need society to opt out of madness" - love this quotation from Francis! What a wonderful world it would be were that so; I hold the vision for that world.
I completely agree with you, Miri, that there should be no line in the sand regarding free speech. None at all. In order to have a well-functioning society, we need to be able to respectfully disagree and allow conversations and debate in a constructive manner on all subjects.
All things hidden, unspoken, and unacknowledged remain "in the dark" which in my opinion is very unhealthy - at both the personal and societal level. I read (many years ago) an article about the first wave of European explorers to come across the Polynesian people. The article stated that the indigenous people carried out their coupling in full view of the rest of their tribe, as was their tradition. It was seen as normal and no great attention was paid to it. Interestingly, the article said that there had never been a case of sexual deviance or rape among these people...
I find it sad - and somewhat ironical - to see the divisions being created within the truth movement on free speech. I consider attacking or trying to smother another's opinion as narcissistic behaviour - another form of madness which society is being encouraged to accept.
Looking forward to the next one!
Thank you, Catherine, an excellent comment. I'm very pleased you enjoyed the chat, and I agree with all you say about the importance of not suppressing free speech, and that an unwillingness to appropriately tolerate different views is indeed a form of narcissism, which as you say has become a modern epidemic.
And yes, yesterday was my birthday! Thank you for the kind words :)
Really enjoy these chats thanks Miri. It comes across how well the three of you get along and respect each other’s opinions.
It was worth it for the Deirdre Barlow tattoo story alone 😄
Thank you, Mick! And yes, the Deirdre Barlow tattoo was definitely the highlight!
Re Trump…..they used exactly that play book here with Bojo….put him in front of every demographic
I REALLY enjoyed this conversation and found it very thought provoking and fun to listen to. I like how open all three of you are about your experiences and perspectives.
I realised that, unlike Francis and Miri, I can easily name 100-150 people I know. I am almost certain I couldn't name 100-150 celebrities (unless I had a long time and people such as you three count) and I could CERTAINLY name people I know far more quickly. This made me realise I have an eccentric way of socialising and reflect on how differently other people are experiencing the world.
I have made a lot of effort with a lot of friendships over the years. I have noticed that, recently, people seem to be unexpectedly grateful for this. I was thinking it might be because I am getting older (I am 50) but I am starting to wonder if it's not that. I also don't think what they really appreciate is me (because I don't think seeing me 1-2-1 is what they are after). I think what it is is that I genuinely care about people and want to connect with them authentically. I think media has pushed a lot of people into a tiny corner socially and they realise they need connection with others. The other day I invited a group to see a play. None of them are what you'd call "awake" (which I am defining as "aware there's a global, co-ordinated agenda which is more concerned with the enslavement and exploitation of most of humanity than their welfare). The play was written by a former colleague who's 25 and it was about the issues with therapy. It was great. Our group was diverse. We had all been exposed to different propaganda (this was clear when Elon Musk's "Nazi Salute" was discussed), but we could discuss the play and connect with each other on a human level rather than just parrot propaganda-provided platitudes. I would not have selected this group of people to see the play, I just asked everyone I knew who I thought might come because I wanted to see it and support it and that was who came. Afterwards, they all messaged me to say what a good time they'd had. I feel we are at ground zero of socialising. People have had this period where cancelling socially was fine. Where staying in was noble. And I think they are over it. And, when they venture out, I think it will be things where they get together with people outside of their echo chambers and connect on a human level. And that, IMO, will be one of the many, many ways in which we will build the new society of which we are all dreaming.
(If anyone wants to host more, this is an AWESOME book about bring people together - I just loved it - I learnt so much and, because I read it in 2020, it was a great time to reflect on it!)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37424706-the-art-of-gathering?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=TxisJIzlkB&rank=2
Thank you, Rosie, and I agree with all you say. It's important to try and connect with a wide range of people and people do indeed massively value it. More than ever now that things like working from home are more common. Thanks for the book recommendation.
Oh it’s your birthday? Snap!! It’s interesting when you spot these characters being groomed for celebrity….before he had a band, a very young very preppy Frank Zappa was put in front of a mainstream US tv audience on the flimsy pretext of demonstrating how to play a bicycle as a musical instrument. The whole thing was embarrassingly paper thin. Similarly, a teenage Bowie (as David Jones) was introduced to a UK audience as the spokesman of the “boys with long hair society” or words to that effect :)
Yes, that's very true, when you look into the background of a lot of celebrities, you find these kind of childhood backstories.
And happy birthday to you! I hear that all the best people are born on February 14th...
Ah a day out :)
Oh how interesting! Thanks for sharing.
The Zappa story is particularly interesting…
Care to elaborate?
Rosie
I hope you have your rabbit hole excavation trousers on….
Here’s the Zappa clip I
Mentioned
https://youtu.be/QF0PYQ8IOL4?si=Eqm5AzDQ21c91tbh
In the clip you hear him mention a film he made the soundtrack for, a B-movie titled 'The World's Greatest Sinner'...
Matt Sergio looked into this a few years back in a video presentation with guest, documentary-maker Andrew Arnett
These are Matt’s words…
it links into 'Paul is Dead' - via Stanley Kubrick and an actor by the name of Timothy Carrey - the star of the aforementioned film that Zappa (pre-fame Zappa) made the soundtrack for - in 1962. In the film, Carrey makes a deal with a serpent and becomes the leader of a successful Pop group, and he changes his appearance in keeping with this.... He lets his hair down and growns a weird-looking goatee beard... A bit like what Frank would do a few years later. Predictive Programming? Agenda setting? So, this film was made at the same time that the straight-laced looking Frank was playing the bicycle only then, some four years later, to morph into resembling the Pop-star as featured in The World's Greatest Sinner.
There’s a link to the YouTube presentation below ... Go to about 1hr 50 mins to get to the part regarding Zappa and Carrey It'll last until about 2hrs.03.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT2jOxNYL_c&t=6018s
Thank you Random Free Human!
You’re welcome :) If you haven’t watched it all, it’s well worth doing. A great piece of work by Matt Sergio. It’s fascinating when you start to view 1960’s iconography through the filter of Ancient Egyptian symbology…..and start to see the underlying connections with Blavatsky, Crowley, Kubrick’s work etc
A couple of additional observations…
The Beetle car in the Shining may have different levels of significance. Apart from a possible nod to the band, Stephen King featured a red Beetle in the book. By using a yellow car which drives past the wreck of a red one, Kubrick was likely signalling to King that this was his project now and he was free to change the story as he saw fit.
The Abby Road cover didn’t lose the Everest element…..it’s right there in the perspective
Also there’s a fascinating documentary called A Clockwork Shining: Kubrick’s Odessy 3 that is available on Amazon Prime (link below) featuring Jay Weidner and Mark Devlin. I originally sent the Zappa link to Mark and it was he that responded with the info from Matt S……happy viewing :)
https://www.primevideo.com/detail/A-Clockwork-Shining-Kubricks-Odyssey-3/0IYEYHQFZLMQUMXUQ1V2EV15JO
I'm afraid my hearing (even with new hearing aids) and the sound quality makes it very difficult for me to listen. Is there any chance these chats will be transcribed?
p.s. Happy Birthday Miri, X
Ah, sorry to hear that Richard, I will see if we can make some captions / transcriptions available.
And thank you very much! x
Hi Richard, Francis has let me know that there are subtitles available for this interview on his Substack.... https://francisoneill.substack.com/p/miri-leo-and-francis-podcast-2
If it is truly your birthday, I hope you are having a happy one, Miri!
I enjoyed the second chat. I wondered if your chats have to be slightly «self-censored» now or if you feel you have to explain the reasoning for the audience which you didn’t have to do when it was just the three of you on the call.
Thank you, Johan, and yes, Feb 14th is my birthday! Thank you for the wishes :)
I honestly don't think the conversations we record are any different to the ones we don't, but I will also see Francis' and Leo's opinion on this...
Another great conversation please do more.
Leo I have to say whilst you were discussing EGI, I kept looking at the eyes of your T-shirt that looked a bit like a bra :)
https://tinyurl.com/ms7j6zm8
Not nearly enough attention paid by you three 'conspiracist types' to the horrors of
Global Warming/Climate Change.!! Very much as the article describes; I too found myself
getting angry, last summer, during the three days of sunshine we had in August. Firstly, I think
because the world is absolutely burning up, and it's so obviously our fault. That would make anyone bitterly angry. Then on the second 'hot' day I broke sweat in the garden [well it was
16 degrees in the centigrade].
I comletely lost the plot and started raging at my partner.Then argued with two of my
neighbours, jumped in the car, and sped round to the workplace, and smashed up the
office and threatened my boss; then realised: they were all women. It's perfectly true -
a bit of rather warm weather simply exacerbates Toxic Masculinity. Doesn't take
much to tip the scales. Before I knew it; I'd turned into a misogynistic, sexist, right wing,
bigoted, racist scumbag... Too long in the Greenhouse, perhaps.?? Oh the heat.
So now in view of my climate initiated behaviour, last year, I've gone to therapy [obvs].
And the ex University lecturer come councelor has quite rightly suggested that I take a load
gender dysphoria drugs and a course of hormones, some betablockers, a lot of statins,
Benzodiazepines, and five covid-19 boosters. I have an initial appointment with the Surgeon
next week, to discuss the first part of surgical proceedures for trans women and
non binary people.
Well with that, and the cases of Kool-aid I'm now drinking, coupled with regularly taking
the Knee at my Antifa meetings, plus the fantastic deal I got on boxes of rainbow face masks
at Amazon; I'm virtually cured .....
Remember: Stoo Alert
Contril the Vorus
Save Loaves.!!
Eat your Alphabet Spaghetti
And switch off your Heating.!!
I cry all the time when I'm engrossed in a movie. It is a standing joke. But I'm the one telling everyone I know that the movies are deep programming!
Really enjoyed your chat even if I'm not quite on the same page with everything.
I wouldn't use the argument "can't say that because it will make you seem crazy" but I will say "that argument IS crazy" (with my reasons) and also that "that's a psyop", eg, those prominent saying the moon landings are a hoax are clearly agents whose purpose is to make those inclined to disbelieve the authorities (correctly most of the time, of course) disbelieve a very rare implausible real event. https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/moon-landings-hoax-psyop
I'm very happy to disagree with people and for them to disagree with me in a civil manner, however, I do tend to expect rigour and responses to challenges ... and that's what drives me crazy - that you challenge someone and they simply don't come back to you.
To give an example of what I consider a completely crazy argument: Stephen Hawking was replaced, the justifications being that no one with ALS has lived anywhere near as long as he did and his photos don't add up. Miles Mathis did a paper on it: https://mileswmathis.com/hawk3.pdf
Recently, I had a very long email chat with someone over this and we were perfectly civil to each other (it's really not that hard to maintain civility if you value it) but I told the guy I think his argument is crazy. However, while I think he's crazy on Hawking I very much admire work he's done on 9/11 ... in fact, I also debated Hawking with another guy (who was quite derisive in tone - but water off a duck's back for me) whose work on 9/11 I very much admire but who didn't get back to me when I responded to his "case" on Hawking.
If I stopped paying attention to people I disagreed with on individual items there's no one I'd be paying any attention to but disagreement on individual items doesn't make me think they're a shill because I can see what good work they do otherwise.
Re the transgender thing. Francis mentioned the Bond movie person (Caroline Cossey) who really looked like a woman but was born male. The thing is Cossey is not so much transgender as a kind of intersex, born with the condition Klinefelter's syndrome, which means she had XXY chromosomes instead of the normal XY. Sure the glorification of transgenderism is criminal but I think it's important to recognise that transgender and intersex are both phenomena which have always been around. What floors me is non-binary. Prior to the current era I never looked at anyone and thought they looked non-binary (regardless of the fact that no one identified that way as far as I know) whereas now I see people who identify as non-binary and think, "Yep, they look non-binary, they don't look particularly male or female." It is a very strange sensation.
The Martyn Hett tattoo story is amazing. They pulled the full interview from the internet because it was too much even for the normies - however it lives on in shortened form. From 54sec https://www.bitchute.com/video/UPZLLGzEAeXB
One of my very favourite comments on fakery is on this pair:
"Holy Shit. I am really shocked. The mother actually says her boy would be happy to be dead to get all this media attention. OK, I know grief can be strange, but – really? saying your kid would be happy to be dead and famous is beyond anything I can easily accept as normal. At best it’s sociopathic. At worst…I don’t know! I just do not know what to think.
These two seem utterly unmoved, smiling, calm. Not bravely smiling through the pain. Just regular smiling and unmoved. WTF is that?
And why is she sitting there with an arm full of the dolls she makes like some sort of freakish product placement? And as I said what are the odds this “son of the year” who was all over the media a couple of years ago for what seems like quite odd reasons of itself, is now in the media again for being a victim of terror?
I am genuinely shaken and genuinely confused. I have never bothered to look at any of this alleged fakery before. I have to have a long think about this and ask some trusted friends to view the video.
It’s insane."
👍 Appreciate your collaborative minds, thank you, well wishes X
Belated birthday wishes Miri. Hope you had a great day. I enjoyed the chat very much and the comments. I hope you do more. Best wishes sweetheart.