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APT's avatar

As Miri wrote we should not condemn all Jews. I am often accused on forums of being an antisemite to which I reply, “No, I am anti-Zionist, anti-satanist and anti-gangster. Some people fall into all 3 of my anti groups and usually (but not always) call themselves Jews. However, most Jews do not have any ancestors that lived within 2.000 miles of Judea, they are Ashkenazis from Khazaria. Netanyahu has Polish parents and was born Milowski. They are not Semites.

Their perpetual victimhood is grating, Jews have been expelled from 109 countries (see Wiki), they claim it is because they are persecuted for no reason or that persecution is because they are more intelligent, more talented and harder working, others say it was because they are nepotistic, greedy, dishonest and exploitive. In short gangsters.

The holocaust is a big fat lie. When I first realised this, I just shrugged my shoulders and thought, there is not much truth that comes out of war or a political campaign. The political campaign being the creation of Israel on Arab land stolen from people who had toiled it for hundreds of years. For a look at both sides of the holocaust debate I recommend this book available as a free pdf download.

https://ia803408.us.archive.org/17/items/thomas-dalton-debating-the-holocaust/Thomas%20Dalton%20-%20Debating%20the%20Holocaust%20.pdf

In much of Europe you will be jailed for denying the holocaust. Think about that.

I hasten to add that the internment of Jews in work camps was evil and there was much brutality including murder but the initial conditions were much better than the conditions of the Japanese interned in America. Anne Frank died of Typhus in a German hospital. The Red Cross visited the camps unlike the German Prisoners of War who Eisenhower designated Disarmed Enemy Forces so as nullify the 1929 Geneva Convention where more than 500,000 died of disease, starvation or exposure in open camps.

The whole of history as I understood it is mostly untrue as well. An even bigger lie is nuclear bombs, they do not exist, when you realise that your whole world will be turned upside down, not just Hiroshima but the cold war and the Cuban missile crisis. You will have to rethink your view of the current middle east war. It is mostly fake. As with Convid it is about control, depopulation and The Great Reset. I say we need a Great Reset where we prosecute the gangsters for fraud (fiat currencies) genocide (funding and directing both sides in WWI and WWII) and numerous other crimes against humanity, some of which Miri has detailed.

Martin Niemoller updated: First they came for the Jews. Then, after they came for the Jews, they looked around and found out that pretty much all the problems had mostly been solved, and any that remained were easily fixed, so they quit coming around.

Again to be clear, the Jews I talk of are just gangsters.

Miri AF's avatar

Well said APT, agreed on all counts.

VHMan's avatar

The Japan bombs were "fake"?

APT's avatar

Yes, the damage was exactly the same as Tokyo which was fire bombed. I will write more on this shortly.

It is claimed the Hiroshima A bomb was dropped from 31,000 feet and detonated around 2,000 feet above ground (2 seconds from impact), this was not technically possible at the time.

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

From this comment and from Miri’s response that she agrees on all counts, it appears that it’s pointless for me to continue to attempt to bring awareness of truth on this site. I am at a loss for words to express my shock and pain at you and Miri denying my ancestry and the murder of dozens of my grandfather’s and grandmother’s cousins and of my husband’s grandfather’s cousins in the Holocaust.

I am an Ashkenazi Jew and so is my husband. The Khazar ancestry story is fake, I don’t care how many books or sites or scholars promote it. Don’t gaslight us. We know where we come from. On one side, we know exactly that we were exiled from Israel to Spain and in the 1400’s left Spain to Czechoslovakia, and on that branch I can trace my ancestry back parent-to-child over a thousand years, and further back, we know that we descend from the Samuel the Prophet, from the tribe of Levi. On other branches, I can trace it back nearly as far, and know that we descend from King David, from the tribe of Judah. The traditions are handed down parent to child and many people have kept family trees spanning many hundreds of years and even more. I take extreme offense at your denial of my family history and lineage and your denial of the murder of my family and so many other millions of my people in the Holocaust. I grew up brushing shoulders with dozens of Holocaust survivors and hearing their harrowing stories firsthand. My neighborhoods are populated with their children and grandchildren. All of them saw their communities wiped out and lost many or most of their friends and relatives. My Rabbi’s father lost his first wife and children.

The abject ignorance and cruelty of your denial of the destruction of a huge portion of my people is mind boggling.

I daresay that if this gaslighting was perpetrated upon any other ethnic group, it would be termed racist. Yet somehow it’s socially acceptable to spew these horrific lies about my people.

Ironically, even as you deny the Holocaust, you witness exactly how it started, as you do the same, yourself. Blame the Jews for everything, deny they’re even the real Jews, paint them as subhuman and as the root of all evil, and what do you think happens next?

Miri AF's avatar

APT's comments are extremely far from "socially acceptable" - as he points out, in many countries they are not even legally acceptable! The Holocaust is the only event in history people are prevented by law from questioning, which should reveal a great deal. Who put this law into place? Why?

We should be able to scrutinise, question, and doubt the veracity of any alleged event until the evidence has proved to our satisfaction that it's real, given that the truth, rather famously, does not fear investigation. If the Holocaust did happen as the history books tell us, then it was the worst move ever to make laws preventing people from asking questions about it, because that simply screams that it didn't.

That's not to deny the fact that lots of people died in that period. Of course they did. There was a war on, so yes, millions perished, often in unspeakably brutal ways, including multiple members of my own family. My great-uncle was murdered at Katyn, my grandfather nearly was, then nearly died in a Siberian hard labour camp. Millions of families have similar stories of epic brutality and devastation relating to the war, Jews are not "special" in that regard, and were far from the only group to be subject to unimaginable horrors during the war.

As I said in my reply to you on the other thread, so-called "antisemitism" exists not because people irrationally dislike Jews and want to destroy them. It is because they object to the elitist attitude displayed by some Jews that they are special and superior, and their lives - and deaths - matter more than everyone else's. There is ample evidence from your comments that you too believe that to be true.

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

What I am discussing is that people who were Jewish (or even had a bit of Jewish ancestry) were uniquely singled out for extreme persecution and for extermination. This is an undeniable fact that was experienced by millions, and witnessed by millions of the populace. Accusing me of elitism for speaking historical truths is absurd.

APT's avatar

Miri Reply to Brucha Weisberger

I note you are very active in New York promoting Jewish interests, I wonder why you suddenly appear here doing the same. Damage limitation? Were you assigned to this role?

I am a numbers person; numbers jump out a me when they look odd. Your grandmother died in June 2013 aged 113.

World's oldest Jewish person dies in New York at age 113

She was born 14 Aug 1899, you were born on December 17, 1974

https://nuwber.com/person/563aa19ccf00835c7f4eb5c7

You were born when granny was 75.

“I am at a loss for words to express my shock and pain at you and Miri denying my ancestry and the murder of dozens of my grandfather’s and grandmother’s cousins and of my husband’s grandfather’s cousins in the Holocaust.” Yet you continued with 324 unlost words.

Coincidentally I did read a persuasive article yesterday that disputes the Khazar ancestry. I am always open to my views being changed. Are you? Whatever, I still very much doubt any of your ancestors ever lived within 2,000 miles of Judea, you will have no documentary evidence to show otherwise.

“I grew up brushing shoulders with dozens of Holocaust survivors and hearing their harrowing stories first hand”. Strange how many survivors there were, all receiving ‘compensation’ payments from Germany. In 2023 alone Germany paid $1.2 billion. These payments continue. There is no compensation for the Palestinians who lost their land, houses and possessions in the Nakba of 1948.

I do not deny the deaths of many Jews during WWII in the camps, I deny they were gassed and will post separately on this. My paternal grandmother had 6 brothers all of whom died in WWI so we can all play that card. Miri has reminded you of this already.

“what do you think happens next?” What I hope happens is the Palestinians are given their land back and compensated. Fractional reserve banking is deemed the criminal fraud that it is and the beneficiaries of this fraud must return all the wealth accumulated over several hundred years. People such as Albert Bourla and their accomplices are prosecuted for crimes against humanity including murder in some cases during convid. See here:

https://youtu.be/xA9e9Qd1_E4

All unlikely because the gangsters now have a vice grip on the world, especially the media and politics, but the fact you are here trying to perform damage limitation gives me some solace.

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

For your information, last night we ended three days straight of the Passover holiday and then the Sabbath, on which we are prohibited from using electronic devices. Now, reading your horrific comments, I’m beyond shocked, and I see clearly that you are a hopeless hater. I respond here only for the sake of others who may read this.

I know from whence I come. I know my people and their destruction. I do not need to “document” any of this.

Of course, I knew my grandmother, whom I took care of and who was a very unique and remarkable person (I have no idea what you were trying to say by bringing her up.) I know I speak the truth, and I know I will never convince you, and that is because of your own mean-spiritedness.

It is not worth my time and emotions to debate the deaths of my cousins and millions of my people with anyone, certainly not with those who are full of hate.

I am simply replying so that others reading this who are not as mean-spirited as you will know that you lie.

And no, I do not work for anyone and surely was not assigned to do “damage control” by anyone. Substack is international. I had been receiving Miri’s emails, having believed she was a truth-seeker, and the email titled “Jew Diligence” caught my attention. I was utterly amazed at the ridiculousness of her thesis and felt I had to respond. My mistake was in thinking that explaining the facts in good faith would make a difference.

Goodbye.

Mark Finch's avatar

So you've not been using electronic devices for three days (is that stipulated in the bible?) because you've been celebrating a supposed psychopathic genocide of non-Jewish babies which you refer to as "the passover", which is basically a story of how "God" (bless him!) murdered a bunch of non-Jewish children at midnight via a "divine act of judgement", but spared Jewish children because their parents had painted lambs blood on their doors.

Is that why you feigh shock and horror whilst clearly having no genuine interest in the plight of non-Jews, because their suffering (including their murder/extinction) is "divine", whereas the occasions where Jews have been spared (such as "the passover") are equally "divine"?

Is that what you've been busy celebrating, and what's been preventing you coming back here and massively proving Miri's points?

What are your thoughts on the non-Jewish children (and their families/community) who, according to the story you've been so diligently (although definitely not digitally) observing, were ruthlessly murdered (albeit "divinely")?

And what went wrong in virtually any instance where Jews have been persecuted?

Did "God" let his "divine" cap slip?

Please make it make sense, because it very much looks like, to you at least...

Killing non-Jews = "divine"

Letting Jews live = "divine"

Perhaps we should change divide and conquer to "divine" and conquer?

APT's avatar

Desperate

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

APT's avatar

The holocaust is a big fat lie. Most know we have been lied to about JFK, 911, convid but will still not entertain that the holohoax is indeed a hoax because the propaganda is relentless.

“History is a set of lies agreed upon.” Napoleon Bonaparte.

It only takes a modicum of research to establish that 6 million and gas chambers is not true and there is zero physical evidence to support either. Witness statements do not count as physical evidence and nor do the harrowing images of emaciated corpses of people who died of starvation and disease towards the end of the war when Germany could not feed its own people let alone people in the camps.

The camps were slave labour camps set up by an evil regime led by a megalomaniac who cared nothing for human life but they had swimming pools, theatres and even maternity units. Germany needed the labour in Auschwitz for the nearby synthetic rubber plant. Hence the “ARBEIT MACHT FREI” above the entrance to Auschwitz.

The idea that Germans, renowned for their efficiency, would use scarce resources to transport hundreds of thousands of people across Europe just to kill them is preposterous, why not just kill them where they are? Which of course some were by the Einsatzgruppen. The majority were much needed slave labour who were more efficient when fed. healthy and entertained. There will have been much brutality too – stick and carrot.

Many died of typhus which was not good for the war effort so new arrivals transported in filthy cattle trucks were deloused by having their hair shaved, showered and their clothes put in a gas chamber with zyklon B. Hence the showers and small gas chambers were near the entrance whilst the crematoria were over 1km away.

The holohoax narrative has always made two main claims, both of which are obvious, proven lies

1. Gas chambers. It is now admitted by virtually every serious historian that these did not exist. There is no trace of cyanide in the walls of the supposed gas chambers. The purported gas chamber at Auschwitz was at the opposite end of the camp to the crematoria and has an unsealed inward opening door.

2. Explaining the absence of bodies and mass graves across Eastern Europe by claiming that the corpses were disappeared in crematoria or – silliest of all – pits with wood fires.

This is refuted with simple arithmetic – it takes two hours to cremate a human body in even the most modern crematoria (millions x two hours = decades) and there would still remain the skulls, pelvises, femurs, vertebrae and ribs, which do not turn to ash at the funeral home but must be reduced to dust mechanically. Supposedly 1.5 million were killed at Auschwitz

Chatbot question:

“How many people died in Auschwitz?”

Chatbot responded: “It is estimated that at least 1.1 million people died at Auschwitz.”

That answer led to the following conversation:

“Were the murdered people in Auschwitz cremated?”

“Yes, the bodies of those murdered in Auschwitz were cremated.”

“How many crematorium ovens did Auschwitz have?”

“Auschwitz had a total of four crematorium ovens.”

“How long does a crematorium oven take to cremate one body?”

“A crematorium oven typically takes between two and three hours to cremate one body.”

“Is it possible to cremate 1.1 million bodies, using only four crematorium ovens in four years.”

“No.”

“How many years would it take?”

“It would take more than 78 years to cremate 1.1 million bodies using only four crematorium ovens.”

The three main history books written in the first decade after the war were by Churchill (The Second World War) De Gaulle (Memoires De Geurre) and Eisenhower (Crusade in Europe) . Between them they contain over 7000 pages (excluding forwards indexes etc). Not one of these history books mentions one word about the suffering of Jewish people or the Holocaust.

Where did the majority learn about WWII? From books or the BBC, controlled press and Hollywood? Try AJP Taylor and David Irving. David Irving in his book, Hitlers War, said he found no evidence of a single German document or order pertaining to the wholesale murder of Jews. This was just a few pages in the book, for this he was bankrupted and destroyed by the Jewish lobby.

Neither in the millions of captured German documents, nor in the entirety of the intercepted German communications of WWII, including the weekly reports from concentration camps and the Einsatzgruppen has there ever been discovered the existence or discussion of any such order, that is, for the mass killing of Jews. The fact is that Hitler never gave any such order and no such policy was ever implemented. Again, I hasten to add that I am not saying Hitler was not evil, of course he was.

The evidence is in. Case closed. It did n’t happen.

APT's avatar

I note Brucha has not returned, nor do I expect her to. The truth hurts.

Martin Spencer's avatar

"Muslims account for just 6.5% of the UK populace"

People keep repeating this statitic, but:

1) Illegal immigrants tend not to complete census forms; and

2) The 2021 census was almost 5 years ago. 5 years of the highest foreign immigration in our history, significant emigration by indigenes, and Muslim birthrates exceeding Muslim deaths.

I reckon they can't be far off achieving 10%.

Miri AF's avatar

You may be right, I take all statistics with a pinch of salt (89.7% of them are made up on the spot etc). But the point is, even if the Muslim population was 10% (0r 20% or 30%), that is not the fundamental cause of the UK's social maladies. That is the critical point we need to address if we are to turn the UK"s fortunes around, and that involves a potentially uncomfortable level of personal responsibility, and looking at what we ourselves have done wrong in our own social and personal lives. The Muslims have not splintered our communities, we have been complicit in doing that ourselves - and we have to ask why so many of us have been complicit in such self-destructive trends. It's not about self-flagellating but realising the ways in which we have been influenced, mainly when we were young and vulnerable, by destructive forces - and helping future generations to resist these destructive trends.

Doug's avatar

Jews are NOT a race. They are a club similar to the Freemasons. Nobody has to be a Jew. It's not compulsory. You only need a mother who is a member of the club to be a Jew club member. Like all clubs similar to Freemasons the Jew club looks after it's members and gives special privileges to it's members especially in finance and employment. Jews will always try to be owners of businesses rather than employees. A Jewish friend once told me she played the field when she was at Uni but would only marry another Jew. It's a clever system.

Miri AF's avatar

Yes, I would tend to agree with you. The "race" argument appears to rely on DNA evidence which as exposed by Jamie Andrews (and others) increasingly seems to be a hoax.

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

I am Jewish, and you are completely wrong. We are descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. However, it’s not a club. Anybody who wants to join us in worshipping the Creator of the world and keeping all 613 commandments of the Torah can become a full fledged Jew.

Harry W's avatar

Yes, entirely correct, of course. My life has been transformed from the inadequacies of a Christian upbringing by coming to recognise the complete Jewishness of Jesus.

This opened me up to the profound wisdom to be found in wider Judaism.

I was more drawn to progressive Judaism, but at one point was advised that to convert to Orthodox Judaism would lead to greater level of acceptance (there are tensions between various forms of Judaism, just as there are between different forms of other religions).

As it happens, I haven’t formally converted to any form of Judaism…but my thinking has been so tremendously shaped by Judaism that certainly a good contact who remains very senior within UK Judaism would I think, consider me more Jewish than anything else, I suspect - without any such formal conversion process whatsoever.

As mentioned in a comment on a previous article, insofar as any of us are working for the betterment of humanity, then we are following the essence of Judaism.

This lines up perfectly with a saying of the Judaism of Jesus, for example - where he talks of this philosophical influence being like the seasoning effect of a tiny amount of salt flavouring food, or of small quantity of yeast, entirely making bread what it is?

Simon's avatar

How many Jewish doctors/surgeons have you ever encountered? I haven't encountered one, that I know of, but have encountered many who I know are Muslim, and many who I would assume are Muslim. Therefore, members of which religion are the most "caring"?

Kevin Molloy's avatar

Compelling stuff Miri, as ever. Your essay is both almost unbelievable, and at the same time I think barely touching the sides of the actual gigantic con we have all been subject to. it is bottomless , the deception. Every behaviour we have been encouraged to adopt, is bad for us. I look at Hollywood now from the very start as grotesque. The hero, always a beer swilling cynical womaniser who has the film he is in bend to his will so that he emerges Godlike at the end. And what does the Hero do, always? Curse Jesus Christ, and eat junk food. All of them. it's not subtle, not even hiding in plain sight, just in plain sight.

What to do about it, that is the question. I think the fastest most effective route is back to Church. Cos if this grand deception has shown one thing, it is that these old tribes, rivalries and religions didn't go away, they just hid, and the battle that has been going on for 2000 years is still very much in play, we've just been deceived that it's all behind us. And Christianity is always the no 1 target.

Peter Faulder's avatar

An excellent article Miri. It is certainly not Anti-Semitic, you are merely pointing out facts. I had not realised the birth rate among the Orthodox Jewish community was so high, but it makes sense. They do seem to be a close knit community. On the occasions I have encountered them they have always been in large groups and seem very family orientated. I notice the most anti- Muslim people often tend to be the most pro-Israel supporters who refuse to condemn the genocide what is going on

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

As someone observing the Jewish people from afar, you’ve made some (perhaps understandable) gross oversights.

The most important point is that the so called “Jews” you speak of (who have abandoned their people and God’s commandments, so they are fake Jews), who are wreaking havoc on the world, have ZERO common grounds or goals with the religious, authentic Jews, whose traditional way of life you sort of admire. The atheist “Jews” in-surname-only and their globalist compatriots in crime are actively trying to DESTROY the religious Jewish communities who are a thorn in their side.

IF ONLY it were true what you thought, that they haven’t managed to make inroads into the religious Jewish community. Sadly that’s false. The evil ones have been hard at work for many decades to destroy religion, and they have tremendously decimated authentic Jewry. They work through their agents to engineer various forms of “social change” in Jewish communities, to result in family breakups/smaller families/more integration with the secular world and more Jewish people leaving religion. Yes, they promote vaccination as well, within the the religious Jewish community. The evil ones are our enemies, and they are enemies of God and all of humanity. They have no connection to genuine Torah observant Jews.

So, NO, your apparent theory about the atheist Jews thinning the ranks of humanity so that religious Jews can become a majority is not just false, it’s one of the most ludicrous things I’ve ever come across, and the very thought could only be born in the mind of someone thoroughly unfamiliar with the Jewish people.

Contrary to what you seem to think, God-fearing, Torah observant Jews simply want to live and raise their families in peace, with the freedom to observe their religion without persecution. And we pray for the day that the entire world - all of humanity - will live in peace and prosperity, and the world will be full of the knowledge of the Creator.

PS. It is ironic that you linked a Jewish Women’s Aid page which promotes the false idea that one in four Jewish women is abused. Such organizations (we have them in the US too) receive government funding for their activities and constantly seek to create more funding for themselves by “finding” more abuse and breaking up more families.

Miri AF's avatar

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I don't entirely disagree with you, and I agree that most members of Orthodox communities just want to be left alone to practice their beliefs and are not secretly plotting to take over the world.

However, the "fake Jews" as you call them are destroying not just the rest of the world with their schemes, but themselves as well, which doesn't seem a particularly coherent plan for world domination. Secular Jews are dying out - quite quickly - and it is only religious Jews, both inside and outside of Israel, who are reproducing in significant enough numbers to have a real future.

This has obviously been orchestrated - the "fake Jews" know they are dying out and religious Jews are coming to prominence. So it's clearly planned.

In my view, Orthodox Jews should do more in terms of outreach to the wider community because insular, secretive communities will inevitably invite suspicion and "conspiracy theories". If more people could have open conversations with Orthodox Jews and understand where they are coming from, perhaps we could find more common perspectives - and common enemies - and find a better way forward for all of humanity.

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

This is a rehash. On one hand you seemed to understand what I explained. Yet you wrote: “This has obviously been orchestrated - the "fake Jews" know they are dying out and religious Jews are coming to prominence. So it's clearly planned.” So, again. Your theory is absolutely false, ridiculous, and impossible.

Planned by whom? The God-denying fake “Jews” are the arch-enemies of my community, authentic God-fearing Torah-observant Jews. No, the evil ones certainly aren’t trying to help us increase our numbers. They are doing everything in their power to DEcrease our population.

Regarding secrecy - yes our communities are insular, which is the point, but I would not call them secretive. And yes of course you can have open conversations with Orthodox Jews. That’s what we’re doing right now, and you can visit me in Brooklyn to talk some more, if you like.

PS. Authentic Jews aren’t doing anything new, by the way. Having big families is what we’ve been doing for thousands of years. Sadly, big chunks of our population got wiped out over and over and over again… and other huge chunks were swept away to oblivion, enticed by the evil ones’ machinations.

Miri AF's avatar

Yes, it is good we are able to speak like this, but what I said is not "a rehash" (nor fake nor ridiculous!). I explained that - both inside and outside Israel - it is religious Jews and not secular Jews having the most children. So clearly the climate has been orchestrated to ensure that it is religious Jews who have a future, not the secular ("fake") Jews. As I emphasised in both this and my previous article, that doesn't mean all Jews (whether religious or secular) are "in on" this plan. I do not believe most Orthodox Jews are sitting around the dinner table cackling, rubbing their hands and plotting world domination.

However, I believe - with quite a lot of evidence, as cited in this article - that social engineers, who are disproportionately Jewish, have engineered the climate to be as it is. They know perfectly well what the long-term outcomes of their social engineering (inside of and outside of) Israel will be: a large and growing Orthodox Jewish community and a small and shrinking secular community. So it's planned.

Thank you for the invitation to visit you, alas I live in Huddersfield, UK, so Brooklyn is a bit out of the way, however I have visited New York before (and indeed studied in upstate New York) so if I ever return, I will let you know!

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

No, what you fail to grasp is that the religious Jewish community is growing NOT because of the evil ones allowing it, but rather DESPITE their best efforts to destroy us. They have in fact made huge, huge inroads to damage and decimate us, and they continue to scheme and act to wipe us out, but we are still here because of God’s will. Not because the evil ones want us here.

Miri AF's avatar

Now we are getting to the essence of the problematic attitude possessed by some Jewish individuals and groups. You say it is "God's will" that Orthodox Jews have been spared the soft genocide being imposed on the rest of us. Every single unique European people - English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, French, Spanish, German, Italian, Greek, Polish and all of the rest - are on course for extinction due to their low and plummeting birth rates,

That is what my article is about. Yet I see no empathy in your comments for these groups and what is being done to them, only a focus on your own group and your belief they are special and superior - hence being spared because of "God's will" whilst the rest of us perish.

Why didn't God spare the Poles at Katyn, or the Ukrainians in the Holodomor, or the Irish in the potato famine? Why isn't he sparing ANY European group now as we all hurtle into extinction?

Because Jews are the special "chosen ones" and non-Jews are inferior, correct?

And it is that belief that non-Jews kick back against and what gets them labelled antisemites. So-called "antisemitism" is not a hatred of Jewish people, it is a hatred of an elitist attitude which can and does (as you affirm yourself) lead certain Jews to sabotage and suppress other societies. Nobody opposes Jews living peacefully and observing their faith. It is the elitist attitudes of some Jews and what that can lead to that we oppose.

Thomas Anderson's avatar

Reading you and APT replying to Bruschetta is like watching the "writing fire" meme in real life

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

No, you’ve got it wrong. If your article had stuck with the facts about how humanity as a whole is being systematically and purposefully decimated, we would have been in complete agreement, and I would have done more than just “sympathize.” I would (as I have in my articles) emphatically join you in begging people of all races to reject everything that leads down this horrible path.

The roads to population shrinkage start with denial of God, and continue with immorality and abortion (and harmful medical interventions) among other things, all of which I vehemently oppose. I and others who are faithful to the Torah yearn to see a worldwide mass return of humanity to the values God gave us all at the very beginning: faith in the Creator, everyone marrying young, staying happily married, and having large, beautiful, thriving and healthy families. This is God’s desire, and mine, for ALL of humanity.

You, not I, ruined your post by weaving in an idea that is false. I know it to be false, because it’s all about myself and my community. Your false and utterly silly thesis in which the victims and the perpetrators are supposed to be “in cahoots” is a cruel accusation which invites hate against those who really don’t deserve it - me and my relatives. Thus, your true and important points (which you resent my not seeming to pay attention to) got put on the side as I felt duty bound to push back against your wrongful accusations.

The death of ANY human being is a tremendous tragedy.

No, there is nothing “superior” about me stating truths: my people indeed have repeatedly been singled out for mass destruction, and it’s only by God’s miracles that some of us are still here. The attempts to destroy us are both physical and spiritual and have been happening for thousands of years, as documented in the Bible.

The modern crop of “elites,” some of whom are atheists who have Jewish names, and many, many others, want to destroy us with every fiber of their being.

Indeed, every person of every race who is still alive is a miracle of God, even more so now with the ongoing attempts to kill out humanity, but I spoke about religious Jewish people specifically because you made specific allegations against religious Jewish people. There is no attitude of superiority in defending oneself against false allegations. It is cruel to make false allegations and then blame the accused for defending themselves.

I repeat my earlier assertion that you truly do not know or understand my community and our history and heritage. Therefore you ought not to be speaking of that which you do not know.

Goodbye.

Kevin Molloy's avatar

I can imagine it's really tough at the moment being orthodox. I think this frenzy will pass, but it may get worse before it gets better. I don't think people are denying that many many jews were killed, I think the pushback is more along the lines of how. Was it a systematic plan of extermination, or indirectly following the starvation and disease of the last couple of years of the war.

Mary Cox's avatar

Excellent article Miri. Thank you. Lowering the voting age to 16 would also seem to be in the same vein as the engineering you describe. Imagine what you could get adolescents to vote for.

Miri AF's avatar

Thank you, Mary, and exactly - I thought exactly that myself and nearly included it. Those of us who today are horrified by the idea of giving 16-year-olds the vote for obvious reasons would have been the "old fogeys" of the 1960s, opposing reducing the age of majority to 18. Nobody with the best interests of young people at heart wants to give them responsibilities they're not ready for, only very sinister social subversives do.

VHMan's avatar

Great article, Miri. But the “superiority” I think is a product of Orthodoxy of any stripe. Imagine how, for instance, a Shia militiaman who prays seven times a day and only eats meat killed by a man of unimpeachable character and care, imagine how he looks down on his pig-swilling co-religionists. I have experience (inside experience) with the opinion of the higher strata of Jews of those lower on the religious ladder: those who wait four hours after eating meat are better than those who only wait two, those who wait six hours roll their eyes at those who wait only four. And to those who wait eight, why…why… those others are lost—until the Messiah arrives anyway.

Miri AF's avatar

Oh yes, piety-based vanity and competitive purity is definitely part of it.

VHMan's avatar

The pattern is there if the details are fudged or the example is bad. “Competitive piety” captures it nicely. BTW do you really know the Hareidim (sp?) customs?

Brucha Weisberger's avatar

I am an Orthodox Jew and what you wrote is just plain wrong. Nobody waits eight hours. There are communities who whose custom is to wait six hours between meat and milk and those whose custom is to wait less, but all accepted Orthodox customs are respected by those who follow other customs.

Andrew Marsh's avatar

Wow, what an essay. As usual, all the way through, so many thoughts.......

1. We did not vote for mass immigration.

2. Most people are aware something is definitely not right with the nation.

3. The disconnect between the entirety of Parliament, the Civil Service, the N-H-S and more from the public has never been this bad.

4. The desire to meet and greet each day has been very nearly crushed from small to medium business.

Something has to change.

I think two actions will not solve everything but will help.

Stop Net Zero, and ban all NGOs from any interaction with any form of Government.

Stopping Net Zero would release levy / tax money back to the public (by no means small change).

Stopping well-funded elite lobby groups access to all levels of Government would force them to campaign like anyone else, overnight. This includes the Big 4 'comfortable' and utterly corrupt relationship with the Treasury.

Is this easy? No.

The few are Hell bent on making the masses pay, because 'they're worth it'.

If any political party is not carrying these messages, they have been bought off.

I want to see Common Purpose et al wither away.

Doug's avatar

Are Jews a race? from My Jewish Learning.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/are-jews-a-race/

John William Corcoran's avatar

I do not know enough about Jewish society to pass comment on the various groupings of Jews and their varied beliefs. I do think that the more extreme sects have a superiority attitude as to their destiny and place in the world hierarchy. However a lady called Elizabeth Dilling was active in Christian circles many years ago and echoed views similar to those expressed in this article.

I do not share Henry Makow's understanding of Christianity.

Miri AF's avatar

Thanks John, I will look into Elizabeth Dilling. I don't agree with H Makow on everything either but I think his insights into Judaism (as an ethnic Jew himself) are highly perceptive and important.

kevin's avatar

I'm told that in biblical times, oppressed Jews were only allowed to work in the lowest-regarded occupations, one of which, at the time, was money-changing. How they turned that around!

An excellent and thought inducing essay Miri. (Although I think deporting our Muslim population would not be do-able at all.

Miri AF's avatar

Thank you Kevin, and yes, I agree deporting all Muslims wouldn't actually be practical - and would be cruel for people born here who know nothing different. But the point is, I don't think it would make much - or enough - difference if we did.

Sharon Purcell's avatar

Interesting and eye opening as usual. Many of your points have been mentioned in recent podcasts by the much maligned Nick Griffin including we need more society cohesion and the Muslim birth rate is also in free fall.

Harry W's avatar

Agree profoundly with the overall analysis of the attack on Western society.

Things start to get a bit tricky when attributing blame to the particular group in question…but let’s put that aside for a moment (it being a considerably difficult issue to explore).

What’s far more important to consider is the solution?

How do we reclaim, recreate, regenerate the community sense that is so badly needed?

That is surely the critical issue?

Without going into any detail about it here, you will find at least an indication of the inspiration within my response to Brucha Weisberger.

It’s something I’ve been working on for many years in the form of a “living” book - i.e. I could have written about it many years ago, but it would have been equally written off as nonsense, or “impossible”…so that what would always be essential was a working example of what was necessary.

It simply is not possible to “go back to the past” - so a substantially conservative approach is not going to work.

An absolutely wonderful example of enhanced community functionality from the 20th century would be ‘The Peckham Experiment’.

However even this would not easily accommodate the societal changes that have taken place over the intervening period - so the contemporary answer has to be something that is far more radical - yet embraces profoundly conservative principles as well.

I can’t explain here how much of a struggle it has been to try to forge something to answer the challenge you present…how extremely high the resistance is towards creative solutions which would genuinely meet human needs.

Think of the resources that have gone into breaking down society as you describe…how much more effort will it take to build - rather than to destroy?

Hollando's avatar

What do you make of this Miri?

Spoke to a relative in his late thirties, proud dad to three children and has made the decision to have the “snip”. Attending the vasectomy clinic he asked the doctor if he was as one of his younger patients.

“Oh no, the majority are in their early twenties!!!

What’s going on here do you think?

Young men taking birth control into their own hands? possibly while away at university and assuming this is a reliably reversible procedure which back in my breeding days it was considered wholly irreversible.

Don’t know the official stats on this but if a national trend, has some serious societal implications.